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tjb121 August 25, 2011 at 12:26 am

Make sure you know who the owner is and who is operating the aircraft and who’s part 135 cert the are operating under…And always check the insurance…insist on limits that will protect your assets. And always be named additional insured on the policy.

Jimmbbo August 25, 2011 at 1:19 pm

Yes… DOT Part 380 applies:§ 380.1 Applicability.This part applies to Public Charter air transportation of passengers in interstate or foreign air transportation, whether furnished by direct air carriers or Public Charter operators. http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2003/pdf/14cfr380.1.pdfYour intended operation would be a “public charter”, and requires that you are certified and comply with DOT Part 380 as a Public Charter Operator…http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_03/14cfr380_03.html

Katherine August 26, 2011 at 1:01 am

You can get all of the information you need at https://www.jets.com/ they are a charter broker. I know the only deal with gold and platinum ARG/US rated operators.

Webappuniverse August 26, 2011 at 1:16 pm

Don’t buy the FAA extra insurance. You don’t need it. You need fuel and rate charge insurance, though.

jackfrost_can August 27, 2011 at 12:42 am

Yes you can charter an aircraft on behalf of someone else. There are companies out there who specialize in this kind of brokerage.To do so, you will have to supply the following:- your name (and your company name if you are doing it on behalf of a business), and your phone number, address, and proof of identification.- The airline will provide you with a cost quote based on your requirement. You will have to prepay the cost of the charter before the aircraft ever turns over an engine. You will also have to supply proof of financial ability to pay any additional costs that come up during the process of the charter, such as deicing costs, ramp fees, airport landing fees, security fees,etc.- A list, or manifest of passenger names, and if you are crossing an international boarder, their citizenship or current immigrant status. Make inquiries about passenger identification. The airline should be able to advise you, but if they cannot, then you will have to contact the government agency to find out. It will be your responsibility to advise all passengers to to have at least one piece of photo ID issued by a government service (such as a driver’s license) and also a passport if required. It is also your responsibility to find out of there are any travel restrictions for your passengers (such as criminal records that could prevent international travel).- You could be, and most likely will be, held responsible for your passengers’ behavior. You can be held financially liable for any adverse circumstances created by unruly, or uncooperative passengers (such as any damage to the aircraft or aircraft equipment). You will also be responsible for any immigration costs should the charter cross an international border and any, or all of your passengers are held by Customs in another country. You must also be aware of what your passengers have in their baggage. People often carry dangerous goods without realizing it, and it will be your responsibility to advise your passengers accordingly. The airline will supply you this information, about what they can, or cannot carry, in their baggage.- You will also be responsible for “troubleshooting” problems with the charter. This would involve costs for your passengers in case of delays or cancellations, due to weather or mechanical problems with the aircraft. The rules for charter airlines aren’t quite the same for an airline running a scheduled service, as the only obligation they have is to refund your money if the charter does not happen.- If you cancel, you will be responsible for any cancellation fees. Charter companies have a fee for cancellations anywhere from 24 hours before the flight up to possibly a week before the flight. Airlines have to make prior arrangements, and pay for them up front, for a lot of services before the flight, often which are non-refundable if they don’t use them. The cancellation fees could be just what it cost them, amounting to a few hundred dollars, or it could be a percentage of the charter cost, from anywhere to 10%, up to 30 % (or more…some companies will nail you for 50% if you cancel less than 24 hours before the flight) of the original charter cost. So if you pay originally $50 thousand dollars, then you could lose anywhere from $5 thousand, to $15 thousand on a reimbursement of your payment.- If you are charging a commission on this charter, you are responsible for applying your profit percentage to the cost that the airline gives you, and charge it to your client. The airline will not pay out a commission to you, as it affects their bottom line. To them you are a client hiring their services for a charter flight, and will charge you the same cost they charge anyone else, be it private, or corporate entities.I would advise you not to get involved in this kind of venture, unless you belong to a company that specializes in this kind of business, or you are well experienced in dealing with charter requests. If things go right, fine, but if they don’t one venture like this could break your bank account.

Jimmbbo August 27, 2011 at 12:36 pm

vastly shorter time from the car to takeoff. Simpler security checks. Flying from smaller airports can get you closer to your actual destination. Airplane flies on YOUR schedule….

Tina Leonova August 28, 2011 at 1:05 am

If you have too much money and want to spend some of it.

MALIBU CANYON August 28, 2011 at 1:12 pm

I’m based in L.A.There have got to be plenty of charter operators in your area. Try Teterboro, White Plains, Islip, Farmingdale, to name a few. Go to AirNav or to the airport websites and they usually list the charter operators on the airport. You could also go through a charter broker. Sounds like a good trip for a Citation or maybe a Lear.The $10k might be enough if you are able to deal with an operator who is able to sell the deadhead or reposition legs. Or if you are able to buy and occupy somebody’s deadhead legs.To put it in perspective, there are people in L.A. who pay $4k to $6k to fly private from L.A. to Vegas. And if they stay a few days or whatever and want to be picked up and taken back to L.A., it’s another $4k to 6k. The charges are not per person. I’m sure cherokee was kidding, as he does not have a 135 certificate, is not 135 current, and wouldn’t want to get into a bind with the Feds. And, yes, you can take your dog in the cabin with you. Good luck.

Reactivity August 29, 2011 at 12:27 am

Yes, the industry standard discount given to brokers is 5%. That’s where the broker makes their money. It’s possible, but not likely, that the broker would mark the price up any more than that. Why would anyone pay more to a broker if they can get the flight from the charter company for less?Credit cards fees vary widely depending on a number of factors. I recommend searching on terms like “merchant account”.

Defenseman August 29, 2011 at 12:36 pm

You might want to clarify your question a bit. I’m not sure what you mean by “originator.”But a charter operator is like a taxi for the air. OK, I’m over simplifying it but that’s the basic idea. They rent out the aircraft to people who need to go places.If you mean the owner for the second part, sometimes an owner will let a charter company use his aircraft in order to help cover some of the cost of ownership.Hope this helps.

bevl78 August 30, 2011 at 1:00 am

If you need to ask those questions on here you have no hope of starting any kind of jet charter business. The requirements for the “back office” as you put it are all set out in the regulations that you will need to know back-to front and inside-out! Contact the CAA or regulatory authority for your home base country. I hope no-one I know ever comes to you for a job!

captsead0nkey August 30, 2011 at 1:18 pm

I work for a Air charter provider. The cost depends many factors.1. Number of passengers/ weight&size of cargo2. Destinations3. Length of trip ..i.e Overnight, stopping for a few hours, a week?4. InternationalFor a typical 1-8 passenger trip on a Lear Jet or simliar, its about 1500-2500.00 an hour. The cost per hour on the ground waiting for you after the first hour is 100-500.00 per hour. An overnight is about 1500.00 per night. For 9-30 pax, its about 2500-4500.00 an hour. wait time is 500-1000.00 per hr, and overnights are 2000.00 or so.Over 30- to about 80pax, its about 3500-5000.00 a hr. Wait time si 1500-2000.00 an hour, and overnights are about 2500.00 per day.Flight time is not just the city you are going from to the city you going to, it also includes the position and return legs for a trip. (Home base to home base, unless you can get a one way)Its not cheap, but the reason for it is simple. We fly hundreds of trips a month, both passenger and cargo, and it comes down to 2 things. #1 – Timing and #2 Convience.Try getting a entire sports team of 75 people all through security, checked into a commerical flight and making sure all the luggage makes it on time. Just asking for problems, especially when it comes to playoffs. March Madness would be really fun to watch if teams got stuck or delayed and didnt show up for the game. We can fly point to point, with no change overs and be there when you need us.. 3am, no problem

lludwig39 August 31, 2011 at 12:57 am

There are indeed widebody aircraft that are flown privately… but they are MUCH much harder to get a job. They will only hire pilots that are already experienced in the aircraft, and probably current as well. You seem to have a handle on the situation. You have one advantage that you speak English well.. this is a MAJOR problem particularly in India, where they fired about 50+ pilots for failing the practical English tests. Decision time, if you don’t mind eating curry, and living over there for a good part of the time, they will send you home for several weeks at a time during the course of the year, the pay is GOOD, and you are NOT paying US Income tax. NICE ! I have flown with those guys and had a good time… BUT… I was not part of their company (i.e. taking one of their jobs) so I can’t say what it’s like. I know that there are some guys who have complained that there was a lot of friction with American pilots being over there… but that can be the person talking, not the whole picture. Just one of those things you will have to find out for yourself. Freight here in the USA is drying up… ABX, DHL, Emery, I can go on and on… all gone… you got here a little late… the DC-8 is still flying, and I would go to India to get back in that beautiful airplane… but it’s tougher here now. I have not looked in a long time, but Polar was a good place.. but if you don’t have heavy experience… hard to get in.I saw the other day that US Air freight hit a 3 year low. ouch.If you only had that crystal ball we have all been wishing for… it would be easy. Just keep working your way up, and really beat the bushes. http://www.climbto350.com is an excellent source of what’s going on. Not expensive for a year, and if you get a job out of the deal, you are way head. Good Luck.