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Defenseman August 23, 2011 at 3:42 pm

You might want to clarify your question a bit. I’m not sure what you mean by “originator.”But a charter operator is like a taxi for the air. OK, I’m over simplifying it but that’s the basic idea. They rent out the aircraft to people who need to go places.If you mean the owner for the second part, sometimes an owner will let a charter company use his aircraft in order to help cover some of the cost of ownership.Hope this helps.

pdkflyguy August 24, 2011 at 3:46 am

That looks like it’s about 600nm, so it’s really a question of how big a plane you would want to fly.For a Turboprop, that would be about a 2:30 hr flight, so roughly $3,000 USD.For a Small Jet, it’s about 1:45 flight, so about $6,500 USD.For a Large Jet, it’s about 1:30 flight, so roughly $12,000 USD.That is only one way, the reverse flight would be about the same. Of course, that’s based on charter rates here in the USA, so I don’t know how much charter aircraft go for in Malaysia.

David Rosen August 24, 2011 at 3:44 pm

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Jimmbbo August 25, 2011 at 3:43 am

Yes… DOT Part 380 applies:§ 380.1 Applicability.This part applies to Public Charter air transportation of passengers in interstate or foreign air transportation, whether furnished by direct air carriers or Public Charter operators. http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2003/pdf/14cfr380.1.pdfYour intended operation would be a “public charter”, and requires that you are certified and comply with DOT Part 380 as a Public Charter Operator…http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_03/14cfr380_03.html

Webappuniverse August 25, 2011 at 4:04 pm

Don’t buy the FAA extra insurance. You don’t need it. You need fuel and rate charge insurance, though.

bevl78 August 26, 2011 at 4:36 am

If you need to ask those questions on here you have no hope of starting any kind of jet charter business. The requirements for the “back office” as you put it are all set out in the regulations that you will need to know back-to front and inside-out! Contact the CAA or regulatory authority for your home base country. I hope no-one I know ever comes to you for a job!

Av8trxx August 26, 2011 at 4:11 pm

You might get a volume discount if you are looking to charter that many times. In fact, you should contact a charter operator about a crewed a/c lease for the time period you will be transporting these guests. It will be cheaper than a flight to flight charter.Contact these S.D. & L.A. area charter operators for a quote. (You won’t get the true cost for your needs via this forum- you need to go straight to the horses mouth and see what the operator is willing to do for your group.)http://www.sandiegoaircharter.comhttp://www.jimsaircharter.comhttp://www.affordableaircharter.com/wst_page4.htmlhttp://www.expressaircharter.net/home.html http://premierjetcharter.com/http://www.tagaviation.comhttp://local.yahoo.com/results?fr=dd-local-more&stx=aircraft+charter&csz=Los+Angeles%2C+CA

Bizjet Flyer August 27, 2011 at 3:58 am

It depends on what your frame of reference is.If you are comparing it to a single person chartering a jet compared to taking airlines or driving, the private jet will be a lot more expensive.If you are talking about chartering a jet to take 8 people, all earning a $500 per day salary, between a small city and another small city to negotiate business, then yes, it can be far less expensive than any other alternative.Comparison:Private jet – use an airport within 10 minutes drive time from the company. Fly direct on a 2 hour flight to an airport within 10 minutes drive time to the meeting. Total travel time: about 2.5 hours. Most of that time is productive time because the passengers can conduct business on the airplane. Conduct a 6 hour meeting, then reverse the trip home. They are home for dinner after a 11 hour day of conducting business.Airlines – Drive to an airport an hour away with airline service. Arrive 2 hours early to park, check in, go through security, and board. Get in line for takeoff. Fly 1 hour to a hub city. Get off. Wait another hour. Board another plane. Fly 2 more hours. Land, wait in line for a rental car. Drive another hour to the city where the meeting will be. Total travel time – about 9 hours with no business done yet.Check into a hotel. Go to the 6 hour meeting the next day. Now there’s no more flights home that day, so drive back to the airport, return the rental car, and stay at an airport hotel. Travel for 7 hours the next day.Total cost: 8x$600 for airline tickets. 8x$50 for mileage and parking. 8x$240 for hotel rooms (2 nights). 2x$100 for rental cars. 8×2.5 days x$500 for lost productivity (direct salary only, not counting potential revenue generating). 8x$150 for meal expenses. Total cost is about $15,000.A chartered mid-size jet could have done this trip for a bit less, but the convenience factor is priceless in this case.But if your frame of reference is just comparing direct costs between chartering a jet and flying on an airline for one person to go on vacation, then it would be hard to say that chartering a jet is “cheap”.

Peedlepup August 27, 2011 at 3:42 pm

At the present time the A380 is only sold by its manufacturer, Airbus Industries. As for charter companies using the A380, there are none. The A380 is only cost effective on routes where very large numbers of people are going from one place to another. Both the cost of the plane and the cost of operation would make it unsuitable for most charter companies. Smaller aircraft are more flexible for charter companies to use.

tjb121 August 28, 2011 at 4:05 am

Make sure you know who the owner is and who is operating the aircraft and who’s part 135 cert the are operating under…And always check the insurance…insist on limits that will protect your assets. And always be named additional insured on the policy.

Katherine August 28, 2011 at 4:34 pm

You can get all of the information you need at https://www.jets.com/ they are a charter broker. I know the only deal with gold and platinum ARG/US rated operators.

Tina Leonova August 29, 2011 at 4:12 am

If you have too much money and want to spend some of it.

Tracy L August 29, 2011 at 4:23 pm

The basic G4 can hold 4,340 US Gallons of fuel. (from http://www.lpsaviation.ca/avdata.htm ) What that costs to purchase depends a lot on where you buy the fuel (what airports, what cities, what FBO). Prices around my area range from $3.10/gal to $5.64/gal, the average is $4.57/gal. So hear you would spend between $13,454 to $24,477 to fill the thing depending on which airport you bought fuel! If you need fuel prices you can check AirNav http://www.airnav.com/fuel/local.html for the specific airports you will use. I don’t know who you are leasing from but generally excess fuel is passed on at what charges are made and since they have no clue as to where you would need to fill they really can’t guess the costs! If you are outside the US fuel can be very expensive in comparison.

lludwig39 August 30, 2011 at 4:39 am

There are indeed widebody aircraft that are flown privately… but they are MUCH much harder to get a job. They will only hire pilots that are already experienced in the aircraft, and probably current as well. You seem to have a handle on the situation. You have one advantage that you speak English well.. this is a MAJOR problem particularly in India, where they fired about 50+ pilots for failing the practical English tests. Decision time, if you don’t mind eating curry, and living over there for a good part of the time, they will send you home for several weeks at a time during the course of the year, the pay is GOOD, and you are NOT paying US Income tax. NICE ! I have flown with those guys and had a good time… BUT… I was not part of their company (i.e. taking one of their jobs) so I can’t say what it’s like. I know that there are some guys who have complained that there was a lot of friction with American pilots being over there… but that can be the person talking, not the whole picture. Just one of those things you will have to find out for yourself. Freight here in the USA is drying up… ABX, DHL, Emery, I can go on and on… all gone… you got here a little late… the DC-8 is still flying, and I would go to India to get back in that beautiful airplane… but it’s tougher here now. I have not looked in a long time, but Polar was a good place.. but if you don’t have heavy experience… hard to get in.I saw the other day that US Air freight hit a 3 year low. ouch.If you only had that crystal ball we have all been wishing for… it would be easy. Just keep working your way up, and really beat the bushes. http://www.climbto350.com is an excellent source of what’s going on. Not expensive for a year, and if you get a job out of the deal, you are way head. Good Luck.

jackfrost_can August 30, 2011 at 4:38 pm

Yes you can charter an aircraft on behalf of someone else. There are companies out there who specialize in this kind of brokerage.To do so, you will have to supply the following:- your name (and your company name if you are doing it on behalf of a business), and your phone number, address, and proof of identification.- The airline will provide you with a cost quote based on your requirement. You will have to prepay the cost of the charter before the aircraft ever turns over an engine. You will also have to supply proof of financial ability to pay any additional costs that come up during the process of the charter, such as deicing costs, ramp fees, airport landing fees, security fees,etc.- A list, or manifest of passenger names, and if you are crossing an international boarder, their citizenship or current immigrant status. Make inquiries about passenger identification. The airline should be able to advise you, but if they cannot, then you will have to contact the government agency to find out. It will be your responsibility to advise all passengers to to have at least one piece of photo ID issued by a government service (such as a driver’s license) and also a passport if required. It is also your responsibility to find out of there are any travel restrictions for your passengers (such as criminal records that could prevent international travel).- You could be, and most likely will be, held responsible for your passengers’ behavior. You can be held financially liable for any adverse circumstances created by unruly, or uncooperative passengers (such as any damage to the aircraft or aircraft equipment). You will also be responsible for any immigration costs should the charter cross an international border and any, or all of your passengers are held by Customs in another country. You must also be aware of what your passengers have in their baggage. People often carry dangerous goods without realizing it, and it will be your responsibility to advise your passengers accordingly. The airline will supply you this information, about what they can, or cannot carry, in their baggage.- You will also be responsible for “troubleshooting” problems with the charter. This would involve costs for your passengers in case of delays or cancellations, due to weather or mechanical problems with the aircraft. The rules for charter airlines aren’t quite the same for an airline running a scheduled service, as the only obligation they have is to refund your money if the charter does not happen.- If you cancel, you will be responsible for any cancellation fees. Charter companies have a fee for cancellations anywhere from 24 hours before the flight up to possibly a week before the flight. Airlines have to make prior arrangements, and pay for them up front, for a lot of services before the flight, often which are non-refundable if they don’t use them. The cancellation fees could be just what it cost them, amounting to a few hundred dollars, or it could be a percentage of the charter cost, from anywhere to 10%, up to 30 % (or more…some companies will nail you for 50% if you cancel less than 24 hours before the flight) of the original charter cost. So if you pay originally $50 thousand dollars, then you could lose anywhere from $5 thousand, to $15 thousand on a reimbursement of your payment.- If you are charging a commission on this charter, you are responsible for applying your profit percentage to the cost that the airline gives you, and charge it to your client. The airline will not pay out a commission to you, as it affects their bottom line. To them you are a client hiring their services for a charter flight, and will charge you the same cost they charge anyone else, be it private, or corporate entities.I would advise you not to get involved in this kind of venture, unless you belong to a company that specializes in this kind of business, or you are well experienced in dealing with charter requests. If things go right, fine, but if they don’t one venture like this could break your bank account.